Caveat: it's tough to tell these guys apart sometimes, so I did the best I could. This isn't a full transcript, just the stuff I thought was interesting.
Howard Lincoln's opening statement:
"[The team's performance] is simply not acceptable. We have tried to be patient. Given this team's record, change is in order."
Lincoln says that the search for a new GM will be led by Chuck Armstrong (who led the search for the last GM).
"We are sorry that we have dug ourselves into such a deep hole."
"I expect that our manager coaches and players will get going and turn this thing around."
"The time has come and gone for these players to get going."
"It seemed to me and to Chuck that given the momentum that it made sense to continue on with Bill. All of us had that expectation that things would get better. Very frustrating, very exasperating."
How far away are you from having a winning team?
"I'm not gonna sit here and pull your leg and say that two or three players will turn this around."
Lincoln on whether he's happy with McLaren's performance:
"Frankly as I sit up here I'm not in the mood to sing the praises of anyone in our clubhouse."
Chuck Armstrong said that his speech to the coaches was to quote John Paul Jones, including a bunch of naval history. Then he tries to inspire the media:
"We have not yet begun to fight. We're determined to turn this thing around and we're not going to rest...until we're back in the playoffs."
Howard Lincoln on whether the search for GM will include a philosophical change:
"I don't know that it would be a philosophical change. I think there are a lot of myths out there about how we consider players. Let me just say that we are open to anything."
On what will change:
"I certainly don't have all the answers, I'm trying to formulate what the best answers are."
"Success and winning are contagious ... From 2000-2003, the Mariners had the best record of anybody in baseball."
On how they might turn it around:
"If we continue like this till the end of the year, we're gonna have one of the top draft picks."
Do you want the players to feel like they are playing for their jobs in the next few weeks?
"Yes."
Chuck Armstrong on the perception that the owners care more about money than winning:
"If this ownership group was focused on the bottom line, we would not have one of the highest player payrolls in all of baseball. In the past few years, the Mariners have made money. All of that money has gone back into the franchise. Since 1992, not one single owner has got one single penny in distribution."
Here's the question I would've liked to have heard answered, but didn't hear asked:
"Chuck Armstrong, you led the search for the GM in 2004, the search that picked Bill Bavasi. What specifically will be done differently in this search?"
Monday, June 16, 2008
Press Conference with Lincoln and Armstrong
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"Chuck Armstrong, you led the search for the GM in 2004, the search that picked Bill Bavasi. What specifically will be done differently in this search?"
Amen. When I read that Armstrong was heading up the search, I sunk into my chair. Clearly, ownership still believes in Lincoln and Armstrong. Let's hope the faith is warranted, but I doubt it.
Armstrong has had three GMs make up the bulk of his tenure: Woody, Gillick and Bavasi. All are similar in philosophy, and because he experienced at least moderate success with the first and tremendous success with the second, he'll consider Bavasi an anomaly and go back to that.
Remember, one of the biggest critics of Moneyball was Pat Gillick -- and I don't think and old-school guy like Armstrong was far off from that. Not that Moneyball is/was the end-all to GM philosophy, but it represents whether a GM is willing to embrace a different line of thinking to look for an edge. I don't think Armstrong will ever embrace that, and there will be plenty of "qualified" candidates to choose from that think Moneyball is a bunch of hooey, too.
Great insight nuss.
You know, I think they really deluded themselves into thinking this would work. They obviously ignored all the signs (i.e. Bavasi's continued attempt to replace Moyer with first HoRam, then Bedard -- vastly overpaying for both, as well as diminishing returns from free agent signees and trade acquisitions).
What I'd like to know is: Why didn't the Mariners study how much money we lost from the Aurilla and Spiezio signings? How much money is it going to cost us for the Sexson and Vidro dumps in prorated salary?
On a related note, this is truly a sad day for the other 29 General Managers.
Rob Neyer had a pretty succinct take on Bavasi's tenure:
"His team's performance was simply inexcusable. He took over a rich, successful franchise, and today, he leaves behind a rich, unsuccessful franchise."
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